One afternoon it was pretty slow and so I was a little bit more open to getting a ride that was outside of downtown. I got a ride up at the University of Utah Hospital going out to Magna. I figured I could do that if I turned off and went directly back into town so I wouldn’t get dragged all over the west side of the valley.
I went and picked up the young man. He worked at the University of Utah Medical Center and he was heading home at the end of his shift. The spirit indicated to me when I saw him I had that better get ready to go. A lot of times when you pull up on a situation where there are 10 to 30 people outside waiting for a ride you either have to call to recognize who they are or just sit there forever untill they recognize who you are.
As I drove up, I knew exactly who I was supposed to pick up. This is how I knew the spirit had chosen him. I knew that we were going to lift this young young man today.
We started to drive and talk a little bit about what he did at the hospital and it was pretty interesting. my mom is a nurse and worked in hospitals until her mission and then again after her first mission. After their second mission she put the nursing thing away, but I guess once a nurse always a nurse.
I talked to this young man about my exposure to medicine through my mom to establish some common ground. He seemed very interested and we chatted for a minute.
I turned to him and said, you know I’ve had some impressions of some things I’d like to talk to you about. Would that be OK? He said, go for it! I said, about God. He said, I love God, that would be awesome.
I asked him if he had lots of people he worked with who were members of our church. He said that he did. This was an interesting question because I had never asked him whether or not he was a member of the church, but I just followed the guidance of what was in my heart and started talking to him as if he were not a member of the church.
I asked him if he had ever wondered what the differences were between his religion and our religion. This is a question I like to use because it allows me to open up and talk about Heavenly Father and his love for everyone and aspects of the gospel that teach us more profoundly about his plan for each and every person to be able to come home.
My first thought was to teach him about the temple. I thought that this was strange, but I dove in. I asked him if he had seen or thought about what went on in the temples around the valley.
He said, yes, I know that they’re beautiful buildings, but I’ve always wondered. It doesn’t seem like they are the main place you go on Sunday for your meetings but they seem very important and they are very beautiful.
I said, in the temple, we find out that God has a plan to save everyone of his children if they will be saved and how he plans to do it. I asked him if he considered how many people in the history of the world had died without hearing about Jesus Christ.
He said, no, I hadn’t but now that you mention it, oh my goodness. I asked him if he believed that every person needed to be baptized to go to heaven. He said yes. He said that his church taught that.
I, at this time, had the impression that he was Catholic and I said, doesn’t your church even teach that if the baby is born and is not baptized that they can’t go to heaven if they die? He said, yes, but nobody really believes that.
I asked, do you want to know why you don’t believe that? He said, yes. I said, you don’t believe it because you believe that Heavenly Father loves you and he loves everyone just the same. It doesn’t matter where they lived or when they lived. I told him that I believed his understanding of God‘s love would preclude him from condemning a baby. I told him that God would’ve had to make a plan for that situation. He said yes, you’re right.
I asked him about somebody who’s mentally challenged. They can’t understand, should that person be condemned because they weren’t baptized? He said, no and no for the same reason. God loves everyone and that person should not be held responsible.
I asked him about the people that were born in India, Africa, and China thousand of years ago. I asked, what about them? Did they ever hear about Jesus Christ? Were they able to accept Jesus Christ? Was there an opportunity for them to be baptized?
He said, no! I asked him if it would be just for them to be condemned. I told him some of them maybe were very very very good people. Would it be just to condemn them? He said no, no it wouldn’t.
I asked him if an all loving God who loved all of his children would allow 90% of them to be condemned without an opportunity for salvation. He said, no. That’s not the God I know.
I asked him if there was a doctrine in his church that taught him about an opportunity for salvation for these and he said no.
I told him that after Jesus died, in the three days before he was resurrected, we are taught in Peter in the Bible that he went to the spirits in prison who had not had the opportunity to hear the gospel. I told him that Jesus went to them and taught them the gospel. He also organized the teaching of the gospel to everyone who dies without having the opportunity to hear the gospel on the Earth.
I told him that every one of God’s children will hear and be taught the gospel whether it happens on the earth or there in the spirit world. He asked me where it said that and I pulled out the scripture and we read it. He said, I’ve read the Bible, especially the New Testament and I’ve never noticed those scriptures.
I said, so now you know that everyone will be taught and know that Jesus is the Christ. He said, yes, I love that.
I asked my first question again, can they go to heaven without being baptized? He thought for a minute and said how are they going to do that.
I told him, that brings us back to the discussion on the temple. In our temples, we do work to save those people and give them the opportunity for exaltation and eternal life with God.
I told him that one of the things we do there is we are baptized for those people. They have the opportunity at that time, having been taught and with knowledge of the divinity of Jesus Christ, to accept or reject that baptism. He said, I don’t know what to say. That’s amazing. He said, literally every person then would be equal and have the same opportunity. I told him that this is correct.
I told him that a loving father would not condemn 90% of his children without giving them an opportunity to decide for themselves whether or not to come home. I told him that a loving father is always about saving his children, providing for his children and bringing them home safely. He said, that’s right, I believe that.
I told him, your father in heaven is a perfect loving father and he will do everything he can to get us home. He has prepared an opportunity for everyone. He said, that is amazing.
I told him that we are married and sealed in those temples. Marriages that are sealed are valid after this life through that marriage in that temple. I told him we have the authority given by Peter to do this. Peter was given the authority to seal things on earth that will be sealed in heaven, and we have that same authority. We use it in those buildings to seal marriages and seal children to their parents.
If a child dies, not only will they live with God, but the parents of that child have the assurance through their sealing in the temple that this child will belong to them and will be with them in heaven. I told him that God is all about families and we are all part of his family.
He said, those are really important buildings. I said, yes they are. I told him that they tie heaven and earth together. It’s where everything comes together. He said, I love that. They tell me I can’t go in. I said, because of how sacred those buildings are, we can only go in after we have become clean through baptism and repentance and are worthy to go. You have to show a recommend after an interview with your religious leaders. This is how we maintain the sanctity of the things that go on in that building. He said, I get that, but I would still like to see one.
I had a prompting right then. It said, “the Taylorsville Temple is still doing their open house”. I knew that had been going on for quite some time and I thought it was over. I’ve driven by there many times and haven’t seen very many cars out there lately. I decided to verify what the spirit and told me and I called my friend Gene.
Gene lives in that area and I put him on speaker. We asked him if the temple open house was still going on. He said, yes! It’s going on for another two weeks. In the backseat, my passenger said, that’s awesome. Do I need a recommend to go? My friend Gene said no. You don’t even need to set up a time because right now they’re being very lax and you can just go whenever.
We said goodbye to Gene and thanked him. My passenger said, I know where that temple is. It’s right off the freeway and it’s beautiful. I would love to go there.
He said, Thursday night is the night I have my church meeting but I think I might grab a couple of my friends and go there instead. He said, I have never contemplated the depth of the question of God‘s love like I have in the car today. I’ve never really seen everyone as children until this conversation.
I asked him what he was feeling, and he said he felt happy. I asked him to describe it to me. He said, I feel happy like I am just beaming. It’s like nothing can touch me. I’m so happy.
I told him this that was the spirit of God testifying the truth of the things that we had discussed. I told him that spirit of God always testifies of truth. I told him that when he felt this he knew that the things he was hearing were true.
I told him that because God loves us. He gives us prophets and they give us commandments. They write down those commandments and so we have the Bible. He agreed and said the prophets are really important.
I felt really impressed by the spirit to be bold right here about Jesus coming to America and so I did. I asked him, if God loves everyone in the world, why wouldn’t he have prophets other than just those in Israel? I asked him, if God loves everyone in the world why wouldn’t he give instruction, commandments and love to everyone else through prophets like he did in Israel?
I asked him why he would ignore everyone else except the people that lived in Israel. He said, that really doesn’t make sense. I told him that God had prophets in America and that they received revelations from him just like the prophets in the Bible. I told him that these prophets taught about and the people believed in Jesus Christ and that he would come to them.
I told him that they were baptized and worshiped the best they knew how. I told him that they were taught to look for the coming of Jesus Christ and they did. I told them that Jesus Christ appeared to them. He descended from heaven and stood on the steps of their temple.
I told him that the Bible says other sheep I have which are not of this fold and that he was going to go to them. I told him that these were some of the other sheep. As he stood on the steps of the temple the people touched the prints of the nails in his hands and in his feet. They asked him to save them.
As a direct answer to that plea, he called up 12 and gave them authority to baptize and commanded that every single person be baptized in the way he taught and by that authority that he gave them. Even though they had already been baptized, he wanted to make a new covenant and have them take a step up to a higher level of discipleship. I told him that he blessed the people and their posterity. He blessed their children and he loved them because God loves everyone.
The spirit was filling the car and I could tell he believed everything I said through the confirmation of the spirit. I asked him, what are you feeling now? he said, really happy! I told him that’s the spirit of God confirming to him that this happened.
He said he heard something similar with regards to ancient America and people waiting for the return of a white God but he had no idea that this was Jesus Christ. I told him that there are legends, histories and archaeology the point to this but the important thing is that this points to the fact that God loves everyone. I told him that in America after Jesus taught the gospel and after he blessed the people, said, there were still other sheep he had to go because God sent his son to all of his children. God loves his children.
He said, I’ve never seen the love of God in such a way. I told him that because of the love of God, Jesus offered this new baptism, this new step up. Part of taking those steps up and that new level of discipleship is the temple and what we do there. It’s a very holy place.
He said, that makes sense. I love this, I love how I feel here in this car.
I told him that there was a prophet named Joseph Smith. He said, I’ve heard of Joseph Smith, didn’t he found your church? I said yes. I told him that Joseph Smith had been trying to find truth and that he went and prayed. God the father and Jesus Christ appeared to him and called him to be the prophet to restore the church on the Earth. He was given the same authority to baptize that Jesus gave to the people in the Book of Mormon. I told him that the coming forth of the book was this restoration. I told him that those records that were kept by the ancient American prophets were given to Joseph Smith by an angel, who had been one of those prophets. He gave them to him and told him to translate them into English. I told him that this young man with a second grade education, translated the Book of Mormon by the power of God.
I could see the spirit working with him as I testified of the Book of Mormon. Testifying of the prophet, Joseph Smith, and the Book of Mormon always brings the spirit.
He said, so that is the Book of Mormon? I said yes. He said, I’ve always wondered what that book was about. I told him that it was about God‘s children and their dealings with him in another part of his vineyard. I told him that God loves all of his children. He said this is amazing.
He said. I’m going to have to go get one of those books because I’d like to read it. He said, I like to read. I’ve even read the Quran, but that didn’t make any sense. He said, this seems to make sense and it feels right.
I told him he didn’t have to buy one. I reached into my glove box and pulled out a copy of the book of Mormon prepared by the Secrists and handed it to him. I said, this is the Book of Mormon and he said I can’t take your copy. I said, I’ve got lots of copies. This is your copy and it has the questions of the soul that people ask all the time inside the front cover. The tabs take you to the answers to those questions. He looked at it for a second, then he said this means a lot that you would give this to me.
I told him that it was no accident that he was in my car today. I told him that God put him here so that he could receive this book and learn how to bring his family home.
Right then I had the impression to say, the last few minutes you’ve been thinking about a particular friend of yours who went on a mission. You’ve been thinking about asking him about this.
He said, yes, I have. How did you know? I told him that the Holy Ghost whispered it to me. I told him that he should take this book and go to that friend and tell him about our ride. I told him to tell his friend what he learned, show him that book but most importantly of all he should tell him how he felt right now. Tell him the truth you’ve learned because the spirit has let you know these things are true.
He said that he would see that friend on Sunday and he would do it. He said, I’ve got a full week now, go to the temple on Thursday and talk to my friend on Sunday. We pulled up to his house and he said, I can’t tell you how much this means. I’ve never felt this happy. It’s answered so many of my questions and even questions I didn’t know I had.
He got out of the car and went in the house.
These temple open houses can be a great missionary tool.